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How I Turned $800 into $192,000 and counting Flipping Domains

Thursday, September 4th, 2008 |

So I mentioned in my last post I’d give my visitors reason to read my content.  Was I able to get your attention?  I’m guessing so.  Well now that you’ve made it this far I don’t want to disappoint so let me dive right in with all the details.

A Little Background
In early 2000 there was a buzz surrounding the growing popularity of domain names as “online real estate” and I wanted to know more.  I had just graduated from college and was already looking for an exit to the corporate world.  I thought domains might be the answer. I got my start by heading over to the early Afternic chat boards.  A few days later I dove in head first and registered some of the worst domains you could imagine racking up over $750 in registration fees in the process.  After taking inventory I realized I didn’t have a clue as to what I was doing and decided to join some of the new domain forums to learn more.  Forums such as DNForum, DomainState and later NamePros are where I started to learn how the domain game really worked which lead to everything I do today.  I was only able to sell a few of my original names and the rest went to the expiration pile.  I took a pretty big hit for a poor kid right out of college and was very cautious with my domains moving forward.  While my portfolio held between 100-200 in 2006 when I got back into the game most of my domains at that time were earmarked for development. One thing that stayed constant through those six years was that I never stopped reading and learning.

The Accidental Challenge
I’m really into finding my angles through data research.  I primarily do keyword research to optimize my sites for search engines and find under served affiliate niches.  In early 2006 I got my hands on a monthly dump of the overture keyword search tool.  I found this data fascinating and ran it through several tools I use including Luc Lezon’s Domain Research Tool.  I ran a list of Overture searches that ended in .com (and other extensions) through the tool and noticed many of the domains being searched didn’t resolve to anything.  Many were typos of big sites which was to be expected.  What I didn’t expect to see was the large number of generic domains that weren’t being monetized in any way.  It looked like a nice opportunity but I was really busy working on developing my sites so I put it aside in my “maybe later” bin.

It was July of 2006, at that time I had a site that catered to the teen crowd and I noticed a lot of my incoming searches included the word “bored”.  It got me thinking about a possible offshoot so I went looking for a “bored” domain.  After an exhaustive search and several offers I landed Bored.org for $800 (Not near the original asking price but I’d just left an office job of 5 years as a buyer/negotiator which helped).  I didn’t have immediate plans for the name so I parked it at my Sedo account.  At one time it was a site so I expected a little traffic but I got a lot more than that.  Not only was there traffic from incoming links but direct type-ins as well to the tune of about $12/day in parking revenue.  I knew the domain was nice but I’d stumbled onto a real gem.  This got me thinking….

Around the same time I had read a handful of posts on the  domain forums where people were claiming domaining for big bucks wasn’t possible any more and the days of a new guy making a living in the industry were gone.  I knew all this “missed the boat” and “woe is me” whining was Bull Shit.  So much so that I decided to pull my domain opportunity out of the “maybe later” bin and make it a personal challenge to prove the naysayers wrong.  I decided I would start by flipping Bored.org to give myself a bit more purchasing power.  I posted the domain at DNForum with a few weeks stats and had the name sold for $16,000 the next day.  It was time to get started.
(Note: I’m only going to disclose the name of my first and last sale as those were the only names publicly reported)

Turning Potential Into Profits
With $15,200 of extra padding to my domain venture bankroll I fired up DRT and began to pinpoint all the potential buying opportunities.  My basic assumption here was that if the domain did not resolve there was a chance the owner did not understand the full value of the domain or the traffic it was getting.  My goal was to find generic .com/.net/.org domains that were on my overture list and negotiate purchases at a price I felt that I could immediately sell for at least 3 times more.  Less than two months later I had spent my full $16,000 domain bankroll on 10 solid domains and had some good traffic and parking revenue coming in.  To get a premium return I sat on the domains for about a month to get a decent history of parking earnings.  It was right at a month when I stumbled across an opportunity I could not hold back on.  I found a two letter .com (WT.com) listed on GoDaddy’s TDNAM marketplace for $100,000.  The 2 letter .com sales at that time had been rising significantly and all of the good letter combos were well above the $100,000 level.  I was confident I could get the name for less so I decided to put my newly acquired set of domains up on DNForum with the goal of flipping my $16,000 investment into at least $90,000.  Three days and a bit of a bidding war later I had a deal sealed for the 5 of th 10 new names at $90,000.  I had no time to celebrate though.  There was another deal to make.  I got in touch with the owners of WT.com and had an agreement to purchase the name for $75,000 before the wire from my earlier sale had even cleared my account.

All of this happened in under 6 months and I needed to take a step back before deciding what to do with my new gem.  After having my wife/accountant review everything (and paying taxes on my profits) it looked like holding the name for at least a year to get the long term capital gains discount was going to be the play unless someone made me a big time offer.  That is exactly what I did and just a few months ago I put WT.com up for sale.  Finding a buyer in the six figure range proved to be a bit more of a challenge but the buyer did eventually come and a sale was made at $192,000.
I’ve added a time line image below for the visual folks.

You might note that I have “and counting” in my title.  That and counting is the result of the other 5 names I didn’t tell you about and the $15,000 difference on the sell prior to the WT.com purchase.  The other names were sold as well and several generations of flips later I’m now sitting on a portfolio of over 5,000 domains (note: many are regs and lower priced local verticals, my new love).

Can This Still Be Done Today?
Yes.  That said, it would be much toughter to do the EXACT same thing I did right now.  I believe the Overture search data I had was from the last month the tool was online.  If you really wanted to try though Quantcast has their top million site rankings here (10mb zip). I’m sure that list has some nuggets in it although I’ve yet to take it out of my “maybe later” bin.  Regardless, I will say that the best time to buy is when money is tight so if you have funds right now and you want to play the game, make a move.  The opportunities are all over the place.

Moving Forward
So that’s it.  The BEGINNING of my story.  Almost seems too simple right?  Believe it or not most success stories are.  Just put in the time and effort and you’ll be rewarded.

Aside from HOW I pulled this off I think the value in this post is that the money is in seizing the opportunities you find (even the accidental ones) and executing them with a unique angle.  When people say something can’t be done take that as a challenge and find a way to prove them wrong by taking a different path.

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Google Search Engine Localization and the .US ccTLD

Friday, August 29th, 2008 |

I’m going to preface this post by stating I have more questions than answers regarding the topic so if you have answers by all means post a comment.

It is pretty well known that Google does give some preference to a ccTLD site when searching from Google in the same country.  As an example, a local business in the UK will have a bit more preference in Google.co.uk SERPs with a site based on the .co.uk (or other UK ccTLD) extension.  I think the concept very solid and really gives a better overall search experience.

Does the .US extension fall in Google’s search algo?
I ask because I don’t know and haven’t been able to find any information regarding the question.  Google.us redirects to Google.com so by default US users get Google.com as their search engine.  I have have no problem with this but from all the searches and comparisons I’ve made I don’t see any bump given at all to sites on the .US extension.   This leaves me with a few questions.

Is .COM assumed to be the native extension of US users?
Is there any .US preference when searching from the US?
- If no, is this because the .US ccTLD hasn’t caught on as heavily as other ccTLDs?
-If no, will .US ever get Google search preferences from searching Google.com from inside the US?

As an internet marketer and “domain collector” this topic is fascinating to me.  I’ve never been too public about it but I am a fan of the .US extension and think it will become a solid option for US citizens as an alternative to .COM over .NET and .ORG.  The extension is already much more relevant from a business perspective and as all TLD registrations continue to rise it may be the only option.

My Opinion
I personally do not think that Google currently gives any preference in it’s algo to .US sites for US based searches.  However, I think that as more and more US based businesses see the .US extension as the best alternative to .COM we will see a lot more small to medium sized businesses in the US running on the .US extension.  Because of this, I feel Google will eventually make a tweak in the algo to provide a better search experience for US users by giving some preference to .US based sites.

Unless there is some info out there from Google that I have missed or unless Matt Cutts responds to me directly I’m not going to get a definative answer on this any time soon but I’d love to hear what experts in the SEO industry have to say about it.  If you feel I’m way off by all means let me know.

Keyword Domains: The SEO Trump Card

Wednesday, August 27th, 2008 |

As a domain nut it’s no surprise that acquiring a good keyword domain is a top priority for me in any new venture.  While .com is always my primary objective other extensions are also an option.  This is especially true with affiliate sites where branding isn’t as much of a concern.  With all other SEO aspects being equal a nice keyword domain can give you the edge in the SERPs for very competitive terms and can allow you to dominate tight niches.

Here are a few examples:

The Long Tail Search Term
Earlier this year I went on a big domain regging spree picking up several thousand 2-4 keyword terms based on search volume.  I knew I would end up dropping many but at the same time I also knew I would find a few nuggets.  I parked all the names at Fabulous.com as they seem to have the longest window with the SEs before getting the parking ax.  The goal was to see which terms would rank and what returns they would bring.  So far there have been several winners which I’m not going to disclose because they are such tight niches.

One domain in particular was very strong and showed good potential for development as an affiliate site so I spent about a week researching and making affiliate relationships for the niche.

Today I dominate the term and related terms in Google and Yahoo.  That hand reg from earlier this year with about 30 hours of development work is making over $150/day from SE traffic.


The Other Extensions

In early 2007 while doing some of my regular traffic research I noticed a keyword domain that got a lot of traffic and didn’t have any site up, MySpaceLayouts.org.  Upon further investigation I saw that it was once a website.  The domain was no where to be found in the SEs but did still have some incoming links.  I contacted the owner to see what the deal was and if he was interested in selling.  Come to find out he was a first time webmaster and had gotten a bit overwhelmed with the whole experience and had let the site go down about 5 months earlier.  I’m not a big fan of the MySpace niche and I know the traffic isn’t overly valuable but I also knew there were several people bringing in over $1000/day with resource sites so I was interested.  While the MySpace niche is arguably the most saturated on the internet the term “MySpace Layouts” is also one of the most searched terms making a good opportunity to pull the Keyword Domain trump card (Note: it also helped that .com and .net were not developed).

After backing the owner off his $200,000 asking price we finally came to a deal at $16,000.  Pre-Development the domain was getting about 2,000 uniques/day with a large majority coming from direct type in. A couple of months later and about 30 minutes of work per week the site was starting to rank and has been holding steady with about 15-20,000 uniques/day.  MySpaceLayouts.org has enjoyed a top 3 spot for the term in Yahoo for quite a while but is unfortunately in some sort of penalty with Google and doesn’t rank well.  Even with Google problems the site still gets over 70% of it’s traffic from SEs and obviously there is potential for more.  The site easily clears $200/day and has for a while making the investment quite sound.

Even in one of the most saturated niches on the internet a non .com keyword domain can pull the Keyword Domain trump card.  :)

About Me

My name is Bryan Gray. I am a full time internet marketer. I've created this blog to share my experiences, ideas, opinions and provide some tips regarding website and domain monetization.

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